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call to the chosen. by: jesjka (24/M/Stroudsburg, PA) 8/25/99 1:38 am Msg: 1 of 216 you are out there and you know who you are, you are from another time some eons ago. you came here to witness one of the greatest events of the universe. you all feel apart, alone, unwanted. you feel as if you belong somewhere else. the time of change is here. now is the time for the chosen ones to awaken and help assist the blind thru the shifting of the ages.you are the light of the world... not of this one, but the one to come. peace.

A reply by: wravenn (old/M/within) 8/25/99 8:31 am Msg: 2 of 217
That's putting it mildly... Posted as a reply to: Msg 1 by jesjka

I feel that I am chosen by: jaawolfe (F/Arizona) 8/25/99 10:21 am Msg: 3 of 217
I can relate to your statement. Can you elaborate more? I was told by a Mayan healer, who had age-regressed me back to Atlantis, that I am a chosen one to "assist the blind thru the shifting of the ages". I would like to hear your story.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 1 by jesjka

heres an outline. by: jesjka (24/M/Stroudsburg, PA) 8/25/99 12:54 pm Msg: 4 of 217
i was dead or dying at one point, drug over and dose heart problems. i am lying on the side of the road knowing this is it and i don't believe it was a mental cry or a physical one, but i cried, "jesus save me." big white light. BAM i stand up go to the hospital. life is never the same. one month later i walk from georgia to pennsylvania, 6 months later i leave for germany and end up staying for 11 1/2 months,6 months later i return to romania, staying in europe again for 5 months. during all this time i am pretty much alone, i got to know myself, what i could do and what i couldn't as i was living one day at a time in the streets of forgiegn countries. then i get back to the states in 1998. in the beginning of 1999 i started kung fu classes, i was a natural, i quit drinking and smoking and doing things the old way. i started to meet people and situations all at the right times. started to look at the stars and the sky, i began to feel free, then i began reading some books that just began falling into my hands about energy, healing, chi, inner peace, blah blah. i eat it up. everything just started to make sense recently as i went out west for a 6 day drive, where i aquired a spiritual workbook from a hitchiker and his dog named reno. i really can't explain it all at once it is like i am someone completely different. i believe in all things now. and the coming shift in the ages is something i have been dreaming about experiencing for as long as i can remember, just think of the times we live in now. every sentient being in the universe is wanting its part in history here on earth, read the papers, they are popping up everywhere. old souls here in the 90's are done, it is to much excitement for them, they are leaving, the new ones are coming in, the bible declares that in the last days He will pour out His spirit onto the earth. it is time to wake up and begin to understand our function in the days to come. people will need help in understanding. they will just need genuine help.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 3 by jaawolfe

Hi jesjka! by: apprentice73 (19/M) 8/26/99 3:06 pm Msg: 5 of 217
I dont think that all the old souls are leaving...nor the young ones. Well a soul cannot be young or old. I mean that we have always existed and will always exist, right? But in the sence of reincarnation or multiple lives. A soul only reincarnates if it feels that the earth has something it wants. Like the most truly enlightened souls are the ones that want nothing. If they want nothing they have no reason to come back. That is how you tell between an advanced and non-advanced soul. Ask what they want. Just a thought!

Posted as a reply to: Msg 1 by jesjka

Agree to a certain degree... by: seeker444_13 8/27/99 3:12 am Msg: 6 of 217
with your statement. However, I would offer an additional perspective. Your comment: "A soul only reincarnates if it feels that the earth has something it wants." indicates a wish to take something a soul feels it needs. There is also the possibility that an advanced soul would wish to return to the physical realm in order to give. Perhaps part of that soul's enlightenment has included a desire to assist those who are still advancing.
Just a thought. Would love to hear your comments.
seeker444

Posted as a reply to: Msg 5 by apprentice73

? by: qpzms 8/27/99 6:28 am Msg: 7 of 217
this sounds like a cult (to me)

Posted as a reply to: Msg 1 by jesjka

?cult? by: hisandhers5 (30/CA) 8/27/99 3:12 pm Msg: 8 of 217
Websters Dictionary ---
Cult 1. a system of religious worship or ritual
2. devoted attachment to, or extravagant admiration for, a person, principle, etc., the object of such attachment.
3. a group of followers; sect

sound familiar??????

Posted as a reply to: Msg 7 by qpzms

seeker444 by: jesjka (0/M/here) 8/27/99 5:31 pm Msg: 9 of 217
a soul is free, absolute and postitive yes? if a soirit simply wish to live physically and wants to live again and again it does so, simply because it is more fun, so to speak.i believe that i have come here to assist in the awakening here on earth, something that i find fascinating, just think of this opportunity to witness this part of time here in the 3d world on earth as it moves forward and reawakens and old glory. and i do tell you the truth when the age change is at the doors, you can feel it everywhere. peace.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 6 by seeker444_13

seeker444 by: jesjka (0/M/here) 8/27/99 5:31 pm Msg: 10 of 217
a soul is free, absolute and postitive yes? if a spirit simply wish to live physically and wants to live again and again it does so, simply because it is more fun, so to speak.i believe that i have come here to assist in the awakening here on earth, something that i find fascinating, just think of this opportunity to witness this part of time here in the 3d world on earth as it moves forward and reawakens and old glory. and i do tell you the truth when the age change is at the doors, you can feel it everywhere. peace.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 6 by seeker444_13

you misunderstand.... by: jesjka (0/M/here) 8/27/99 5:38 pm Msg: 11 of 217
it is not a cult, it is the truth. we are spirits, simple as that. we are perfect, we are forgiven, we are all sons of God, we are blessed, we are saved, salvation is everyones, you just have to believe that is all, that is what jesus taught. if we believe His words then this is the realization we will get, we have the mind of christ which knows all things, throw off your worldly thinking of seperation and division and religion and cults, pah, we are all the same, we are all created by one Creator. God shows know favoritism, if one is saved then all are saved. and spirits can come and go as they chose from one temple to another at will, it is the gift of their Creator to do so, and i have chosen or been chosen, if it will make sense to you, to help mankind understand this new spiritual rebirth here on the planet. peace.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 8 by hisandhers5

misunderstood by: hisandhers5 (30/CA) 8/27/99 7:49 pm Msg: 12 of 217
I don't think I made myself clear. I apologize. I was not calling this a cult. I was responding to the person who *did* call this a cult. What I meant by showing a definition was to clarify that Christianity, Judiaism, Islamic and so forth organized religions are all *cults*. Society throws terms such as *cult* around all the time for things that they disagree, don't understand or are afraid of. I know nothing about what this perticular worship is about I was just replying to the person who seems to like to group people negatively just because the don't agree. Sorry for the misunderstanding. hisandhers

Posted as a reply to: Msg 11 by jesjka

not to worry by: qpzms 8/27/99 8:18 pm Msg: 13 of 217
like the book of job sez the universe doesn't rotate around qpzms.i am content being one of the unenlightened.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 12 by hisandhers5

I hear ya!! by: seeker444_13 8/28/99 4:38 pm Msg: 14 of 217
Good point about wanting to return to the physical world 'just for fun'.
I know what you mean about feeling the changes that are upon us. The vast amount of people who are awakening to their spirituality is glorious to see. I'm so excited to be a part of it. Those that have decided to stay in their 'safe', narrow, little worlds are missing out on the opportunity to FULLY experience the coming age - only because they let their fear hold them back. Thanks be to Spirit that this will not be held against them.
I just finished reading a book that gave me an even more joyful outlook on what is to come. You might find it interesting - especially when the 'end-time doomsayers' get wound up. It's called ON THE WINGS OF HEAVEN by G.W. Hardin and Joe Crane. (It can be ordered through Amazon.) It speaks of how organized religion has used it's usurped power to teach fear instead of love. It also gives an understandable interpretation of what the book of Revelation is really all about. I found it to make much more sense than what has been said about it for years.
I wish you joy in your journey. In Love, Light, and much Laughter,
seeker444

Posted as a reply to: Msg 10 by jesjka

Please clarify........... by: Zenia_2000 (31/F/Wisconsin) 8/31/99 12:03 pm Msg: 15 of 217
Who do you believe are the "chosen ones?"
What do you believe are "the greatest events of the universe?"
Peace and blessings..............

Chosen by: lamhfada (35/M/Manchester, NH) 10/20/99 4:12 pm Msg: 16 of 217
I came to Be.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 1 by jesjka

shamshik'a... by: jesjka (0/M/here) 10/20/99 6:47 pm Msg: 17 of 217
well you certainly are. do you have a story to tell lamhfada? for mine is one of kings in disguise... laughing and singing and dancing inside... for a brand new kingdom is about to arise.
i was just about to head off to british columbia to a buddhist monestary, perhaps you would care to meet me there? i am sure there is much to discuss. you can email me at: adennen@hotmail.com

Posted as a reply to: Msg 16 by lamhfada

jesjka by: Sorceress_Alexia (?/F/A moonlit Glade) 10/25/99 7:44 pm Msg: 18 of 217
I think I might be a chosen one. I feel things that I can't describe and certain events in my life have showed me that I have something I need to do in my time here on earth. You might think I'm crazy, but during times when life was hard and I thought I didn't want to live, I tried to commit suicide. I couldn't, a part of me said "be strong, you are needed." Thanks be that I'm over that now, and I have a greater appreciation for myself and others. I find beauty in the slender trunks of tall trees and magic in the eyes of my cat, life blowing in the wind like a whisper from some unseen deity, and most of all I have found that when I look in mirrors, my reflection is different from my true self. *blush* Um, that was a bit long and flowery, and I hope you don't think I'm a nut but everything I've said is true. I look at emails from, and the actions of, my friends when they say "EMAIL THIS PERSON WITH CUSS WORDS. HE HATES SIMPSONS." and I try to think WHY they spread such hate. I feel it in the typed words and wonder how they can't see the viciousness of a circle of hate. I let things go, I try not to judge people, but I find these things easy whereas others worship god(s) all their lives and still don't see that a part of true inner peace comes from mutual human gratitude! It just makes me amazed. Um.... Any thoughts on this??? ~*Warm strength and happiness unto all*~

Posted as a reply to: Msg 1 by jesjka

jesjka by: Sorceress_Alexia (?/F/A moonlit Glade) 10/25/99 7:59 pm Msg: 19 of 217
I believe I might be one of the chosen ones. I feel things I can't exactly describe and because of certain events in my life, I have found that I have something I am supposed to do in my time here on earth. I guess you might think I'm crazy, but years ago when life was getting tough and I thought I didn't want to live, I tried to commit suicide, but a part of me said "You cannot. You are needed." Thanks be I am over that now, and I am changed. I find beauty in the slender trunk of a tall tree and magic in the eyes of my cat, life blowing on the wind like a whisper from a unseen deity, and when I look in the mirror, my reflection is not that of what I feel I am. I look at the actions of my friends (example: email) Saying "EMAIL THIS GUY WITH CUSS WORDS< HE HATES SIMPSONS!" Can't they feel the hate in it like I do? Don't they understand that a circle of hate is terrible? I try to let things go, and not judge people, and I find these easy, but some people worship God(s) all their lives and never realize that part of inner happiness is from mutual human gratitude. Um... any thoughts???

Posted as a reply to: Msg 1 by jesjka

alexia. by: jesjka (0/M/here) 10/26/99 11:14 am Msg: 20 of 217
you do not seem strange to me... you are on the path... you can email me at adennen@hotmail.com if you wish to speak more... peace.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 19 by Sorceress_Alexia

RE: Hate, etc. by: murphynson 10/26/99 1:49 pm Msg: 21 of 217
You have chosen wisely.......

Posted as a reply to: Msg 19 by Sorceress_Alexia

hey kids... by: jesjka (0/M/here) 10/26/99 4:46 pm Msg: 23 of 217
do not follow anyone... be yourself... be free... that is what the Christ is to be. peace.

Jesjka by: ifellicantgetup (37/F/Arizona) 10/27/99 3:26 am Msg: 25 of 217
Jesjka...
>>you are out there and you know who you are, you are from another time some eons ago. you came here to witness one of the greatest events of the universe. you all feel apart, alone, unwanted. you feel as if you belong somewhere else. the time of change is here. now is the time for the chosen ones to awaken and help assist the blind thru the shifting of the ages.you are the light of the world... not of this one, but the one to come. peace.<<
:::rolls eyes:::
Sounds like more "star seed" special person wannabe stuff.
Seedlings, aren't they cute?
iFell

Posted as a reply to: Msg 1 by jesjka

i'll help you up... by: jesjka (0/M/here) 10/27/99 12:51 pm Msg: 26 of 217
you should check your eyes... perhaps when they roll you cannot understand what i am writing... :)

Posted as a reply to: Msg 25 by ifellicantgetup

i hear 2 by: calibean8 10/27/99 1:32 pm Msg: 27 of 217
THANK YOU, seeker444. I'm susceptible to all this doomsday crap, and yours was just the message I wanted to see - SOMEONE saying something OTHER than "we're all gonna DIEEEEE". There WOULD be a chance, were we more prone to seek and aspire to the positive, instead of the prurient, "jerry springer" negative drek that we seem so very prone to default to.
peace.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 14 by seeker444_13

Jesjka by: ifellicantgetup (37/F/Arizona) 10/28/99 11:53 am Msg: 28 of 217
Jesjka...
>>you should check your eyes... perhaps when they roll you cannot understand what i am writing... :)<<
LOL! You sound like an adolescent that has spent too much time on your computer.
Dude... you might consider getting out more.
iFell

Posted as a reply to: Msg 26 by jesjka

jesjka.... by: avatarmundi (44/M/Bay City, MI) 10/29/99 11:44 pm Msg: 29 of 217
There's a lot of sad, cynical people out there. Some want help and guidance and some just want to drag everyone and everything down to their level. Some just need a 2x4 across their fore- heads. Keep the faith!

Posted as a reply to: Msg 1 by jesjka

avatar... by: jesjka (0/M/here) 10/30/99 8:04 pm Msg: 30 of 217
LOL... i'd feel better using a metal baseball bat... peace.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 29 by avatarmundi

Hey! by: avatarmundi (44/M/Bay City, MI) 10/31/99 1:20 am Msg: 31 of 217
Sounds like a plan! buuuttt...then we'd just be sinking to the lowest common denominator. However, Zen teachers have been known to wack their students on the head with a stick to stimulate the leap into egoless, spontaneous response.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 30 by jesjka

yeh... by: jesjka (0/M/here) 10/31/99 7:03 am Msg: 32 of 217
hmmm... well then i suppose i will become a zen teacher now...

Posted as a reply to: Msg 31 by avatarmundi

A Zen Master, You Certainly Are Not... by: zenlightened_one (29/M/Langley, BC, Canada) 10/31/99 7:19 pm Msg: 33 of 217
Please do not defile my Zen beliefs, by suggesting, non-chalantly, that you should be a Zen master. That is similar to proclaiming to a Christian, that you are , in fact, the Christ, come back... You are nowhere NEAR mastering anything remotely like that, of Zen. You are far too opinionated and biased, to have 'unlearned' what we have been conditioned to think, or feel, in this interesting world of ours. I have practised Zen for some time, now, and have also travelled the world, to such places as Machu Piccu, The Acropolis, Stonehenge, etc.,and also have seen some horrible atrosities, such as being caught in the middle of a civil war, in La Paz, Bolivia, seeing first-hand, the death squads that roam freely in South America. Even I have many things to learn, by unlearning. You sound far too angry with the technological world (I notice that you hate technology so much, that you seem to rely on it daily, to post messages), we now exist in. As I've said, previously, on another Message Board, read the 'Unabomber Manifesto', and then survey what you are writing, to all these message boards... do you notice anything interesting? Do you share Kaczinsky's fate? I do not wish peace OR ill will for you, simply enlightenment. Zen would teach, in this situation, that we do not see our technological world is to be destroyed, but instead, we see it, we accept it, and we live in harmony with everything we experience, and feel...without an opinion on such topics, as it just IS. From where I sit, at this keyboard, you have much to learn, 'Grasshopper'. We ALL have much to learn, or rather, step outside ourselves, and UNLEARN, so that we may see things as they truly are, as opposed to what we think they are. Good luck to you, however, it seems that you are already convinced that you have all the answers, therefore I doubt that you are open to future learning experiences. It is when we think we have all the answers, that we cease to be open to the lessons we might learn, in future life experience. This world, IS - and neither you, nor I can stop any of it, therefore, I suggest you embrace it for what it is, or risk getting caught up in your own opinions, fruitlessly. Om Ma Ne Pad Me Om, or translated, " I am the lightning bolt, in the dark void"... the very foundation of Zen.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 32 by jesjka

mr.zen... by: jesjka (0/M/here) 10/31/99 7:31 pm Msg: 34 of 217
i do not claim to be of any religious belief... zen or christian... i simply am just here... i have understanding far surpassing any global system of thought... and i too have travelled and seen and experienced... i do not hate technology... i only disdain the way it has been abused... i accept the only fact that i am a spiritual creature and that i am a part of the one Creator of all life... if i defiled your zen beliefs then they must be vey weak beliefs... lacking true faith in them... for you have done nothing to shake my faith in my beliefs... i will stand alone against the world and die rather than to believe anything else... that is faith... that is enlightenment... peace.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 33 by zenlightened_one

As you wish... by: zenlightened_one (29/M/Langley, BC, Canada) 10/31/99 7:58 pm Msg: 35 of 217
You contradict yourself, constantly, and so, I shall not post another message to you, after this message. I assure you, I am a very serious practitioner of Zen, and, though I have said that I still have much to learn, you have seemed to think that I was putting myself into the 'master's shoes', so to speak. That cannot be more inaccurate. P.S., Zen is NOT a religion, it is simply a way of viewing the world, from the outside, looking in...and I assure you, my 'faith' in Zen, will certainly not be compromised by someone, who believes they know all. You have simply given up the quest for any learning experience, rendering you, stuck in your ways. Change is inevitable...embrace it, Jeskja, don't oppose it, or , indeed, you shall be consumed by what life shall bring for you. When opposing life, you defeat only yourself. Life will be the victor, every time. It is bigger than you, or I.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 34 by jesjka

zenunenlightened_one by: avatarmundi (44/M/Bay City, MI) 11/1/99 10:10 am Msg: 36 of 217
Zen student.
Clanging bell!
Still a student.

Posted as a reply to: Msg 35 by zenlightened_one

I had knowledge... by: avatarmundi (44/M/Bay City, MI) 11/1/99 10:29 am Msg: 37 of 217

and experience once, but cannot remember where I left it.
Don't believe something...know it!
Belief is another word for opinion,
and like assholes
everbody's got one.
Standing alone against the world and dying for your beliefs seems so dramatic. Try laughing at it and yourself instead. We tend to take our 'little selves' too seriously and when some-one fails to respect us in the proper way we tend to let it knock us off-center. Keep your center and to hell with the worlds oppinion!

Posted as a reply to: Msg 34 by jesjka

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